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Where are they [you] now?

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Every year a couple hundred kids get drafted. Only a select group make it to the NHL each year; and while many play college, overseas, or minor league hockey, I'm curious about those that just call it a day or find a different passion. (I've read of at least one minor leaguer pursuing music part time, but continues to play in the minors/Europe.

Just curious if anyone has any stories of drafted players, that did NOT continue with the hockey dream. Or if you even were one. (don't need to give identifying details). Just curious where life took those that didn't continue with it after reaching the drafted milestone. Maybe those that didn't even stay involved in the hockey world and pursued other careers would be most interesting. Perhaps even some of them end up HFposters.

(sorry if this kind of thread is in the wrong place, just curious to hear stories of life past the dream.)

Links or personal posts are fine, like I said, just like reading stories.

C/LW Alexei Lipanov - Dynamo Balashikha, VHL (2017 Draft)

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Just noticed that Alexei Lipanov, while being rather highly rated (usually second round last time I checked), doesn't have his own thread, so I decided to create one.

Here's what I see: 6'0" center, a bit lightweighted (listed at 169 lbs) with good wheels, hands and vision, also a hard-working type of player.

His EP profile: http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=312824

2017 Canada U18 Roster Talk

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U18s are coming in less than a month (April 13th). It's a good look to see how some of the under the radar players are doing and a good tournament for the scouts. CHL playoffs are going to be in session, so it is mostly likely just the players from the non-playoff teams or the teams that get kicked out in the 1st round. Here's my optimistic guess at the line-up:

Ratcliffe-Anderson-Dolan-Keating
Hughes-Glass-Dellandrea
MacDonald-Comtois-Joly
Carson-Jones-Garreffa
Akil Thomas

Hoefenmayer-Merkley
Max Martin-Lyle
Scott Walford-Ty Smith
McIssac

Scott
McGrath

Not a lot of QMJHL players, the best ones are likely in the playoffs like Joseph, Morand, Veleno, Teasdale. Tell me if missing anybody, I think Brandon gets past round 1, so no Mattheos.

John Beecher (2019 Draft Eligible)

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Heard his name a year ago, but recently got a plug on TSN.

Age: 15
height: 6'3
weight: 200 ibs

OHL Draft: 2017

NHL Draft: 2019

Current team: Salisbury

Probably would go 2nd in the OHL draft behind Hughes. A kid with his size at 15 is pretty insane.

Darkhorses To Go High In 2017 NHL Draft

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Who are some players that might go much higher than anticipated (ie. Guryanov in 2015) or come out of nowhere and end up in the Top 60 (ie. Korshkov in 2016) in the 2017 Draft?

I'd say Alexei Lipanov might end up going Top 15.
Macauley Carson will go early 2nd.

Overage Prospects that WILL be selected in the 2017 Draft

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Who are some players that were previously eligible to be drafted that you think will absolutely hear their name called in 2017?

W/C Miro Aaltonen - Vityaz Podolsk, KHL (2013, 177th, ANA; UFA signed by TOR)

Top Ten Finnish Prospects for the 2017 NHL Draft

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The Top Ten Finns in the 2017 Draft

So who are the top ten Finns in this year’s draft? Here is my list which includes 4 first rounders and 4 seconds – a pretty good draft for Finland. Who is in your top ten?

1. 11 - Välimäki, Juuso, The Combo – Tri-City, WHL – D, 6’2, 200, L, - 58-18-41-59 +3 – 1.02 PPG
So what do I like so much about Juuso Välimäki to have him rated as the top Finnish-born player in this year’s draft. Well, when I order a pizza, I always order a combo. When you order Juuso Välimäki, you are getting a combo. You get the combination of size, mobility, intelligence, vision, passing skills and defensive responsibility that brings positive results at both ends of the ice. A point a game d-man with 18 goals in his draft-eligible year – positive results, indeed. His shot can still use a bit of work so there is a likelihood of even more positive results in the future. He can be seen in the 10 to 16 range on most lists.

2. 12 - Tolvanen, Eeli, The Shooter – Sioux City, USHL – LW, 5’10, 179, L – 44-26-17-43 +15 – 0.98 PPG
Eeli Tolvanen is a player who has proved himself as a goal scorer in the USHL and at the U18 Worlds. It is his shot that sets him apart from most others, the release and the variety, in particular. Add his acceleration and passing skills and you have an excellent offensive asset that should translate to the NHL. While his size may be of concern to some, it is his play without the puck that needs to improve the most for him to be able to translate his junior success to the BIGs. He can be seen in the 7 to 14 range on most rankings.

3. 14 - Heiskanen, Miro, The Skater – HIFK, FIN 1 – Liiga, D, 6’0, 170, L – 37-5-5-10 -1 – 0.27 PPG
There is always a player that I like in the draft that some like even more and I can’t explain why. This year that player is Miro Heiskanen. What I like about Miro Heiskanen is his high-end skating ability, notable hockey sense, great hands, NHL-ready passing skills and being successful playing major minutes against men in a top professional league. The negatives to Miro Heiskanen are:
- He is of modest size, 6’0, 170.
- He does not play much of a physical game
- He shot could be upgraded
- He never has produced significant offense
OK, I guess that I have answered my own question. Hopefully, he will see Miro at the U18 Worlds where we can see if he can produce significant offense against his own age group. Miro can be found anywhere between 3 and 23 on most of the major rankings.

4. 27 - Räsänen, Eemeli, Mr. Gigantic – Kingston, OHL - D, 6’6, 205, R – 64-6-32-38 -10 – 0.59 PPG
How can a 6’6 guy be next to invisible? After all, Eemeli is still a late second or third rounder on most lists. The simple answer is that the Eemeli Räsänen that you had seen before the New Year bears little or no resemblance to the Eemeli Räsänen that you saw in the New Year. Eemeli has been almost a point per game player since January 13, 2017 (22 points in 25 games). However, it is not just the points that have improved as the OHL coaches recently voted him the second most improved player in the Eastern Conference of the OHL. Gone are the days when he looked like a new-born giraffe; gone is the hesitation; gone are the days where he wasn’t counted on in key situations. Today, he is the set-up guy for one of the most successful power plays in the OHL, usually combining with fellow defenseman, Stephen Desrocher , and one of the hottest players anywhere, John Robertson. He is still adjusting to his size but if you were to ask Riley Stillman of the Oshawa Generals, he would tell you that Eemeli is already there. The other night, Eemeli was attempting to enter the Oshawa zone with the puck when Riley rushed towards him to deliver a devastating hit. The result: Riley lay crumbled on the ice like he had just been run over by an Abrams tank and Eemeli barely noticed the carnage that he had caused. Yes, Eemeli is still raw but the growth in his game over the last half of the year has been so high that it promises much more to come in the future. At the moment, I am fairly lonely in ranking Eemeli in the first round. We will have to wait and see to find out if I am still as lonely come draft day.

5. 31 - Heponiemi, Aleksi, Mr. Elusitivity – Swift Current, WHL – LW, 5’10, 147, L – 71-28-56-84 +16 – 1.18 PPG
Aleksi Heponiemi has the best skill level (mental and physical) of any of the Finnish prospects in this year’s draft and for my money; at least, it is not even particularly close. However, this prospect has one notable drawback that makes his selection risky in any round – he weighs only 147 lb. and is just 5’10. However, like Mitch Marner of the Leafs in the NHL, he is a player who still succeeds in spite of his size drawback with his skating, passing, shooting and elusiveness. Aleksi reminds me of Artturi Lehkonen of the Canadiens but Aleksi has better passing skills. Yes, he is a risk but so was Mitch Marner and Artturi Lehkonen. Who will take that risk and when – I am betting that at least one team will take that risk and bring along some poutine in the first round.

6. 34 - Vesalainen, Kristian, The One Goal Wonder - Frölunda, SWE 1 – SHL – W, 6’3, 207, L – 26-1-5-6 -1 – 0.23 PPG
Kristian Vesalainen was the top Finn on many lists at the start of the season. What happened? He simply didn’t produce – Not in the SHL (just 1 goal), not in the Liiga (also just one goal), not at the World Juniors (yes, one goal), not in the Swedish juniors where he was -7 in 10 games. However, this one goal wonder still possesses the size, the shot and the potential to be a power forward that scouts dream about. Yes, he will fall from his early season rankings but still has the potential to go relatively high – late 1st to early 2nd is most likely.

7. 35 - Vaakanainen, Urho, Mr. McSmooth – JYP – FIN 1 – Liiga – D, 6’1, 187, L – 40-2-3-5 -4 – 0.13 PPG
Watching Urho Vaakanainen skate is like watching dancers do the Viennese Waltz backed up by a full symphony orchestra. It is simply poetry in motion. He also makes nice passes that seem to always find the way to where they are supposed to go. However, he does not seem to possess the mental makeup that will ever produce much offense in spite of his high-end physical skills. He also provides more of an active stick than a physical defense. These last two factors tend to indicate that Vaakanainen will likely be more of a bottom pairing guy if he makes it to the NHL. However, anybody who can skate as well as Vaakanainen are a fairly safe bet to make it. Therefore, a late first is possible; an early second is a safe bet.

8. 46 - Jokiharju, Henri, Mr. Wheels – Portland, WHL – D, 6’0, 170, R – 69-8-38-46 +16 – 0.67 PPG
With Henri, it is the wheels – he is just plain fast. He has good gap control, positioning and an active stick. His passes are fine but his shot good still could use a bit of work. Henri is still just 170 lb. so he needs to add more weight and strength to get a better idea of the finished or is that Finnish product. Henri has the potential to be selected in the late first but the second is more probable.

9. 52 – Salo, Robin, Mr. McD – Sport, FIN 1 – Liiga, D, 6’0, 185, L – 53-1-15-16 -1 – 0.30 PPG
Why isn’t Robin Salo in more conversations about the draft? Most say it is because his skating lacks enough agility. While there is some truth to that statement, I think it may be over emphasized as Robin Salo seems plenty agile enough to play major minutes successfully in Finland’s top professional league, the Liiga. His defensive game, however, is up to snuff – gap control, positioning and board battles. Not many first-year draft eligible players get to be regulars in the Liiga. Robin Salo is one of those regulars and is starting to bring a more offensive posture to his game by joining the rush more. He may not be an “A” prospect but he brings a higher likelihood than most to being NHL serviceable for a late second round pick.

10. 72 – Ikonen, Joni, Mr. McScore - Frölunda HC J20, SWE J20, RW, 5’10, 168, R – 40-20-19-39 +8 - 0.98 PPG
Joni Ikonen is a boom or bust prospect. The boom is that he is a goal scorer and I love goal scorers. The bust is that he is under-sized at 5’10, 168 and can be a perimeter player at times. Some have him late second round; others early to mid-third round.

Your "Final" 2017 Top 10 List

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Post your "final" 2017 Draft List. Please if possible don't just post the list, try to explain it a bit. Thanks

From reports, highlights, and extensive research, This is basically what I have as my top 10.

1 - Nico hischier center
2 - Nolan patrick center
3 - Gabe vilardi center
4 - Elias pettersson center
5 - Cale Makar Defense
6 - Owen tippett Right Winger
7 - Cody glass center
8 - Casey mittelstadt Center
9 - Timothy liljegren defense
10 - Klim Kostin Right Winger

Highest Potential (Other than the obvious): Elias Pattersson, who in my opinion has the best Hockey IQ and hands in this entire Draft class.

Biggest Riser:Cale Makar, While he does not play in any premier league, his offensive talent is extremely dynamic, and his skating reminds me of Erik Karlsson.

Other Notes: Vilardi is the clear #3 in this draft, reminds me a bit of Leon Draisaitl the way he carries the puck with strength, seems really good in the corners, hard to know him off his skates.

Why are 23yo college players more valuable than overage CHL players?

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Never understood this distinction. Why is Aston-Reese a marque signing on these boards, while a guy like say, Dane Fox, was considered a novelty at best? Northeastern wasn't even a top team this year...

The competition is slightly older in the NCAA I guess? Wouldn't top ECHL players be of significant interest in that case?

2017 NHL Entry Draft - Western Canada Final Rankings - Top 60

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1. Nolan Patrick - C - Brandon Wheat Kings
2. Cal Foote - D - Kelowna Rockets
3. Cody Glass - C - Portland Winterhawks
4. Michael Rasmussen - C - Tri-City Americans
5. Juuso Valimaki - D - Tri-City Americans
6. Kailer Yamamoto - RW - Spokane Chiefs
7. Cale Makar - D - Brooks Bandits (AJHL)
8. Nikita Popugaev - RW - Prince George Cougars
9. Kole Lind - RW - Kelowna Rockets
10. Henri Jokiharju - D - Portland Winterhawks
11. Jarrett Tyszka - D - Seattle Thunderbirds
12. Artem Minulin - D - Swift Current Broncos
13. Jarrett Anderson-Dolan - C - Spokane Chiefs
14. Stelio Mattheos - C - Brandon Wheat Kings
15. Mason Shaw - C - Medicine Hat Tigers
16. Morgan Geekie - C - Tri-City Americans
17. Jake Lechyshyn - C - Regina Pats
18. Cale Fleury - D - Kootenay Ice
19. Aleski Heponiemi - RW - Swift Current Broncos
20. Ian Scott - GK - Prince Albert Raiders
21. Nick Henry - RW - Regina Pats
22. Ian Mitchell - D - Spruce Grove Saints (AJHL)
23. Stuart Skinner - GK - Lethbridge Hurricanes
24. Kyle Olson - C - Tri-City Americans
25. Austin Pratt - RW - Red Deer Rebels
26. Jordan Bellerive - RW - Lethbridge Hurricanes
27. Lane Zablocki - RW - Red Deer Rebels
28. Mark Rubinchik - D - Saskatoon Blades
29. Tyler Steenbergen - LW - Swift Current Broncos
30. Kristians Rubins - D - Medicine Hat Tigers
31. Griffen Outhouse - GK - Victoria Royals
32. Dylan Coghlan - D - Tri-City Americans
33. Josh Patterson - C - Saskatoon Blades
34. Sami Molainen - RW - Seattle Thunderbirds
35. Zach Fischer - RW - Medicine Hat Tigers
36. Jonathan Smart - D - Regina Pats
37. Ryan Peckford - C - Victoria Royals
38. Brayden Gorda - D - Edmonton Oil Kings
39. Josh Brook - D - Moose Jaw Warriors
40. Ryan Bowen - RW - Lethbridge Hurricanes
41. Mark Kastelic - C - Calgary Hitmen
42. Brett Davis - F - Kootenay Ice
43. James Hamblin - F - Medicine Hat Tigers
44. Ethan McIndoe - F - Spokane Chiefs
45. Dylan Plouffe - D - Vancouver Giants
46. Simon Stransky - F - Prince Albert Raiders
47. Trey Fix-Wolansky - F - Edmonton Oil Kings
48. Patrick Bajkov - F - Everett Silvertips
49. Jayden Halbegawachs - F - Moose Jaw Warriors
50. Carson Sass - D - Red Deer Rebels
51. Max Gerlach - F - Medicine Hat Tigers
52. Zack Sawnchenko - GK - Moose Jaw Warriors
53. Scott Walford - D - Victoria Royals
54. Jordan Hollett - GK - Regina Pats
55. Will Warm - D - Edmonton Oil Kings
56. Brendan de Jong - D - Portland Winterhawks
57. Brett Leason - C - Tri-City Americans
58. Nolan Kneen - D - Kamloops Blazers
59. Jake Christansen - D - Everett Silvertips
60. Ryan Hughes - C - Portland Winterhawks

C Michael McLeod - Mississauga Steelheads, OHL (2016, 12th, NJD) Part II

Viewing Archived Games

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Hopefully this is suitable for this forum, I'm not looking for any less than legitimate sources, but I was hoping to get some information on where to go to view archived games showcasing prospects. I've found Fasthockey which shows Canadian Jr.A as well as USHL games, among others, and then it seems as though each CHL league has access through Neulion, although their subscription packages aren't the best. Does anything similar exist for any euro leagues, maybe the Allsvenskan or SHL? Any info is greatly appreciated.

Which Team prospect pool showed the most this season?

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I saw some weeks ago an article, about the Flyers prospects and their great 16/17 season.
Now i mean juniors, NCAA or Europe.

Cant find it now. But which team could by hyped after their prospect season?

LD Santeri Salmela - KooKoo, Liiga (2018 Draft)


G Dylan Ferguson - Kamloops Blazers, WHL (2017 Draft) ‎

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Finished the season 3rd in the WHL in save % with .922 (behind only Carter Hart and Connor Ingram) and 5th in GAA with 2.74 in 31 games played.

Looked really good this season, especially while taking over the reigns as Kamloops' starter while Ingram was at the World Juniors, playing 15 consecutive games from Dec. 10 - Jan. 14 (including 3 games in 3 nights recording a .933 save %) going 9-4-2 in that stretch with a .930 save % and 2.40 GAA

Think any teams might take him in the later rounds? Or will they wait to see how he does as a full-time starter first?

http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=247471

Craig Button's March Rankings

HF Partner: The Draft Analyst Podcast: Episodes 1-4

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http://www.thedraftanalyst.com/podcasts/

I've done four episodes since last week, but the new schedule is every Wednesday for about an hour or less.

Episode 1: Patrick, Hischier, Vilardi, Mittelstadt
Episode 2: Liljegren, Brannstrom, Heiskenen, Valimaki, Vaakanainen, Jokiharju
Episode 3: Shaw, Shvyryov, Pietroniro, Hugg, Hrehorcak, Texier
Episode 4: Tippett, Glass, Necas, Pettersson, Farrance, Boka

Next week (3/29/17) will include Tolvanen, Makar, Andersson, Vesalainen, Ian Mitchell and Kirill Slepets

Upcoming / Drafted power forward prospects

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Curious if there is any upcoming prospects that are physical and like to hit while still contribute offensively and have size?

What happened to Tommy Vannelli?

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As a UND fan I remember being jealous that the rival school had him, and relieved when he left and played in the WHL. However now a days I don't hear a single thing about him. Is he in the ECHL? Is he still promising as a prospect ?
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